That shouldn't be a problem, Mike!
I signed up to work in Timing and Scoring. I have heard nothing. Do you need experienced Timers? It makes a difference in what to bring. We have limited space.
I believe we have an individual who worked on the first NCM TT to work this event again. I can pass along your information to see what's needed. I'm sure he could use an extra pair of eyes, though.
Randall, are we using the TNIA tech sheets?
As long as drivers can run and different experience groups, we shouldn't have a problem putting more than one driver in a car. We should have between 4 and 6 groups, so either 2x per level (Nov, Int, Adv) or at least once "flex" group that can facilitate people between experience levels.
Thanks Mr. Prince
Can you have 2 drivers in a car? I thought I read where theres a A/B group..
I was issued 118 as my number because 18 was already taken. I now see that 18 is no longer in the list of entrants, can I be changed to 18? John Nelson #118, S4.
Absolutely! I've made the change in the system. You're all set!
I can't find the specification for numbers or placement on the car. Please advise.
No official specs for numbers this year. Generally 8" tall and 1.5" stroke is the minimum, but we are not going to break out the rulers. High contrast is a must. Worst case, if we can't read them, we break out the painters tape!
More Exocet questions - I really don't want to arrive and find out I can't runfor some reason. (I posted this below my earlier question, but didn't get a response so I think they are lost in the thread)
The Exocet can run in Max class if on 200TW street tires. The Max 3 Exocet rule states "minimum 1425lbs with driver". My car is 2L and about 1600lbs with the driver. (depending on what I ate for breakfast...)
I'm looking at Max 3: Vehicles with a displacement of less than 2.61 liters, not less than 1750 lbs. Do I need to ballast the car to the 1750lbs or is it OK for Max 3 if over 1425 lbs? In other words, does the 1425lbs overrule the M3 1750lbs rule?
Also, is there a noise limit at the event?
Sound regulations are: 103 db 50' from the track edge.
I'm reaching out to the track about sound. We don't have anything in the supps at the moment.
I read it the same as Randall. If the Exo is explicitly allowed with its own weight number in that class, that supersedes the overall weight.
"There is no allowance for Ballast in Sport/Tuner/Max, so at 2 liters and 1,600 lbs - it's a Max 2 car." - I assume that this is authoritative, so I'll be running in Max2 (with the aerodynamics of a large brick)
Is there a noise limit?
There is no allowance for Ballast in Sport/Tuner/Max, so at 2 liters and 1,600 lbs - it's a Max 2 car.
I'm fairly certain the Exocet rules override others, but I'll pass this along to our rules wonk to get a ruling. Thanks for the message!
How bad would it be to skip friday and show up friday night late.
JK: I have Friday as only Practice runs. I think he should be ok.
You will miss one of the competition events, and with cumulative scoring it might make things tough. :-(
Hey there, im new to tracking my car and just got dedicated 100 TW tires due to my daily's are about twice the price. Besides that car is completely stock and i suck as a driver. Where would that put me in this event?
Can i even bring these tires???
Unlimited with the DOT tires also means at least a 4-point bar, harnesses, etc.
100tw in my size is literally half the price of the 200tw and 5x the fun to drive on. Oh's well. Car came with a set of Rival S's. I'll burn those up.
200TW is the unofficial universal "street tire" TW limit... whether you run SCCA, ProTouring, LeMons, ChumpCar, etc... even if the tires have "DOT" on the site, the treadwear is what most organizations care about.
You can, but you'd be running in the Unlimited category.
Anyone from the Central Florida region planning to trailer their car and has room for a 2015 VW Golf?
I asked about tires 2 months ago. Can I get an answer?
I've spoken to a few experts on the topic as this issue has come up on the Solo side of things and the official answer is:If a tire *is* marked, then that rules the day.Back when SCCA made the change from 140TW to 200TW, the Toyo R1-R and original Hankook RS3 were marked 140. Later, they were changed to 200TW with no change to the tire other than the stamping. In an attempt to ensure tire legality, they knew that what was stamped on the sidewall was what was "the law" for sanctioned racing.Ultimately, it's kind of a grey area and because of that, we can't officially sanction it because it is setting everyone up for uncertainty and doubt at what is, ostensibly, the most important event of the year for the TT program. If you run the tire in the Sport, Touring, or Max, you will be opening yourself up for possible protesting. Whether that happens or not is up to competitors. I hope that offers some clarity and transparency to the topic.
It's really quite simple. "Tires must be a treadwear rating of 200 or higher" in Sport, Tuner, and Max Category.
A 140tw rating molded in the tire is what Tech will look at to determine class eligibility. Register for Unlimited Category with 140tw tires, or bring 200tw tires and register appropriately.
Randall Prince wrote 2 months ago
I will pass this along to the TTB and we can report back with a decision...
Ihor Bilyy wrote 2 months ago
Are Federal 595 RS-R o RS-RR allowed?According to Federal spec info they are 200 and 220 tw. But they still have 140tw on a side of the tire. I bough them way after spec was updated on fideraltire.com
Seriously tho...what's your question?
It is recommended that you run tires.
So we get to run the Full Grand course, East Course TrackCross, and West Course TrackCross. Is TrackCross autocross on the track?
Not really... There are no cones. There is a standing start involved. We only use a portion of the track (we use autocross timing to set up artificial start and finish locations). We generally shy away from the long straits to keep things technical, but different from a traditional lap of the track. Think of this as a hill climb, but on a race track.
I'm a newbie. Wanting to run for this and also the one in GA. What should I do??
Pretty straight forward... sign-up ("Register" button above), make sure you have added a transponder to your order if you don't have one, make sure you have an SCCA membership (if you don't have one), make sure you have a SA helmet, and show up to the event. Make sure you're not running a car that could require additional safety equipment (feel free to email me with your make / model / modifications list) and we'll get you squared away.
I am 64 years old. Probably in the last 5 years of being able to get in and out of my newly acquired 1999 convertible corvette. I am interested in getting registered for this event. Can you direct me to what, if any modification to my car?
Kevin, here is the website for the rules:http://www.sccahq.com/time-trials-rules/The relevant bit for you here, I think, is under the safety section.
I have a street licensed Exocet Sport Model (licensed as a 1965 Lotus 7 replica), with a roll bar but not full race cage. 2L Honda motor. Race seats and harnesses w/ arm restraints. Are there any requirements that I should be aware of - safety or otherwise? Looks like this should run in Unlimited class.
The Exocet can run in Max class if on street tires. That's good. The Exocet rule states "minimum 1425lbs with driver". My car is 2L and about 1600lbs with the driver. (depending on what I ate for breakfast...)
I'm looking at Max 3: Vehicles with a displacement of less than 2.61 liters, not less than 1750 lbs. Do I need to ballast the car to the 1750lbs or is it OK for Max 3 if over 1425 lbs? Does the 1425lbs overrule the M3 1750lbs rule?
I talked with the TTB about this and I think it's actually Max if it's running on street tires. We have a provision in the Max rules for kit cars (like the Exocet, Cobras, Grand Sport Corvette, and Ariel Atoms). As long as you're on 200TW tires, you can run Max (min weight of 1425lbs for the Exocet).
That's how I read it as well. U1, since you're not retaining the stock tub between the shock mounts.
Are there any specific clothing requirements that must be met to race? or will long pants, closed toe shoes, long sleeves, and a helmet be fine?
Clothing mainly depends upon your class and car prep, but if you're running a mild street driven car, that should be more than enough. Essentially, if you start messing with the fuel systems, that's when we start to require race suits and nomex.
What class would the Tesla Model 3 fall under? Any difference for the RWD/AWD/Performance?
Let me see... I know we planned on having an electric car award, but I will check with the TTB regarding classing of the Model 3.
My father would like to come and watch. Will TT be setup to accommodate spectators? I've looked, but haven't been able to find anything.
Man I hope so. I'll have the wife and kids with me :D
Yes... that should not be a problem. In all our previous Time Trial events, we have had spectators and other participants "crew" able to watch the event.
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