Glad we participated in this very well organized event. Had a lot of fun learning the track and trying to chase down the faster drivers. Lots of room for this driver to improve, so definitely looking forward to the next event with this group. Met some very nice drivers that I hope to race with again soon.
Thanks for coming out, Mansen! It was great to see another quick Viper out there. Very cool stuff!
Any plans for west coast events in 2019?
Absolutely. In the next week or two, we should have more information regarding this.
Who were the photographers at the event? I have lost their card.
I had an absolute blast! My friends who didn't make the trip are regretting it. Looking forward to the next one.
Great event guys!! ...looking forward to seeing all the pics and the write up.
I do not plan on driving but would like to be there as a spectator. Is that allowed?
Absolutely!! Look forward to seeing you there!!
That shouldn't be a problem, Mike!
I signed up to work in Timing and Scoring. I have heard nothing. Do you need experienced Timers? It makes a difference in what to bring. We have limited space.
I believe we have an individual who worked on the first NCM TT to work this event again. I can pass along your information to see what's needed. I'm sure he could use an extra pair of eyes, though.
Randall, are we using the TNIA tech sheets?
As long as drivers can run and different experience groups, we shouldn't have a problem putting more than one driver in a car. We should have between 4 and 6 groups, so either 2x per level (Nov, Int, Adv) or at least once "flex" group that can facilitate people between experience levels.
Thanks Mr. Prince
Can you have 2 drivers in a car? I thought I read where theres a A/B group..
I was issued 118 as my number because 18 was already taken. I now see that 18 is no longer in the list of entrants, can I be changed to 18? John Nelson #118, S4.
Absolutely! I've made the change in the system. You're all set!
I can't find the specification for numbers or placement on the car. Please advise.
No official specs for numbers this year. Generally 8" tall and 1.5" stroke is the minimum, but we are not going to break out the rulers. High contrast is a must. Worst case, if we can't read them, we break out the painters tape!
More Exocet questions - I really don't want to arrive and find out I can't runfor some reason. (I posted this below my earlier question, but didn't get a response so I think they are lost in the thread)
The Exocet can run in Max class if on 200TW street tires. The Max 3 Exocet rule states "minimum 1425lbs with driver". My car is 2L and about 1600lbs with the driver. (depending on what I ate for breakfast...)
I'm looking at Max 3: Vehicles with a displacement of less than 2.61 liters, not less than 1750 lbs. Do I need to ballast the car to the 1750lbs or is it OK for Max 3 if over 1425 lbs? In other words, does the 1425lbs overrule the M3 1750lbs rule?
Also, is there a noise limit at the event?
I'm fairly certain the Exocet rules override others, but I'll pass this along to our rules wonk to get a ruling. Thanks for the message!
There is no allowance for Ballast in Sport/Tuner/Max, so at 2 liters and 1,600 lbs - it's a Max 2 car.
"There is no allowance for Ballast in Sport/Tuner/Max, so at 2 liters and 1,600 lbs - it's a Max 2 car." - I assume that this is authoritative, so I'll be running in Max2 (with the aerodynamics of a large brick)
Is there a noise limit?
I read it the same as Randall. If the Exo is explicitly allowed with its own weight number in that class, that supersedes the overall weight.
I'm reaching out to the track about sound. We don't have anything in the supps at the moment.
Sound regulations are: 103 db 50' from the track edge.
How bad would it be to skip friday and show up friday night late.
You will miss one of the competition events, and with cumulative scoring it might make things tough. :-(
JK: I have Friday as only Practice runs. I think he should be ok.
Hey there, im new to tracking my car and just got dedicated 100 TW tires due to my daily's are about twice the price. Besides that car is completely stock and i suck as a driver. Where would that put me in this event?
Can i even bring these tires???
You can, but you'd be running in the Unlimited category.
200TW is the unofficial universal "street tire" TW limit... whether you run SCCA, ProTouring, LeMons, ChumpCar, etc... even if the tires have "DOT" on the site, the treadwear is what most organizations care about.
100tw in my size is literally half the price of the 200tw and 5x the fun to drive on. Oh's well. Car came with a set of Rival S's. I'll burn those up.
Unlimited with the DOT tires also means at least a 4-point bar, harnesses, etc.
Anyone from the Central Florida region planning to trailer their car and has room for a 2015 VW Golf?
I asked about tires 2 months ago. Can I get an answer?
It is recommended that you run tires.
Seriously tho...what's your question?
Ihor Bilyy wrote 2 months ago
Are Federal 595 RS-R o RS-RR allowed?According to Federal spec info they are 200 and 220 tw. But they still have 140tw on a side of the tire. I bough them way after spec was updated on fideraltire.com
Randall Prince wrote 2 months ago
I will pass this along to the TTB and we can report back with a decision...
It's really quite simple. "Tires must be a treadwear rating of 200 or higher" in Sport, Tuner, and Max Category.
A 140tw rating molded in the tire is what Tech will look at to determine class eligibility. Register for Unlimited Category with 140tw tires, or bring 200tw tires and register appropriately.
I've spoken to a few experts on the topic as this issue has come up on the Solo side of things and the official answer is:If a tire *is* marked, then that rules the day.Back when SCCA made the change from 140TW to 200TW, the Toyo R1-R and original Hankook RS3 were marked 140. Later, they were changed to 200TW with no change to the tire other than the stamping. In an attempt to ensure tire legality, they knew that what was stamped on the sidewall was what was "the law" for sanctioned racing.Ultimately, it's kind of a grey area and because of that, we can't officially sanction it because it is setting everyone up for uncertainty and doubt at what is, ostensibly, the most important event of the year for the TT program. If you run the tire in the Sport, Touring, or Max, you will be opening yourself up for possible protesting. Whether that happens or not is up to competitors. I hope that offers some clarity and transparency to the topic.
So we get to run the Full Grand course, East Course TrackCross, and West Course TrackCross. Is TrackCross autocross on the track?
Not really... There are no cones. There is a standing start involved. We only use a portion of the track (we use autocross timing to set up artificial start and finish locations). We generally shy away from the long straits to keep things technical, but different from a traditional lap of the track. Think of this as a hill climb, but on a race track.
I'm a newbie. Wanting to run for this and also the one in GA. What should I do??
Pretty straight forward... sign-up ("Register" button above), make sure you have added a transponder to your order if you don't have one, make sure you have an SCCA membership (if you don't have one), make sure you have a SA helmet, and show up to the event. Make sure you're not running a car that could require additional safety equipment (feel free to email me with your make / model / modifications list) and we'll get you squared away.
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